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Automatic update check in Panel#111

Optional (via config settings) automatic update check that runs when signing into the Panel. Update notification could vary between just being shown in the Settings view (automatic or by pushing a button) or as an error dialog for updates that include crucial security fixes.

25 days ago
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That is a really bad idea, IMHO - and one of the main reasons for moving away from Wordpress Automatic updates tend to break things and make life a living hell for anyone doing maintenance.

24 days ago

To be clear: this idea is only about a notification for available updates. It’s neither about automatically running updates nor starting updates from the Panel.

24 days ago
Changed the status to
Planned
23 days ago
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OMG, I can already see the client calling me “hey, it’s telling me that my site is out-of-date”… Please, make this notification OPTIONAL.

23 days ago

It is very important to us to keep our users in control, so this will definitely be a feature that can be disabled in the config.

The reason why we are introducing the check is that we often see in support that users have outdated Kirby installations, which means that bugs or even security threats are present that have already been fixed by us.

If you update your sites regularly anyway, you are not the target group of this feature, so you can safely disable it. 🙂

23 days ago

We have also thought about options to limit notifications only to releases that fix security threats - if usual bugfixes or features aren’t so much of your concern, but you’d like to make sure not to miss those crucial ones in terms of security.

22 days ago
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An option to show the notification only to certain groups, e.g. admins, would be nice.

22 days ago

Yes, we will definitely put this behind permissions. It’s not useful to show it to everybody.

22 days ago
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Would be nice to have an update notification feature for plugins as well.

20 days ago
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Mmm, tbh I’d prefer not to have this ‘feature’ at all. Some users will want, others won’t, others will want it but shouldn’t have it. It can grow into a complicated ‘feature black hole’ - show only for certain user groups, make it so plugin authors can use it, allow developers to add their own fields/info to notice, etc. - and it doesn’t help in handling clients. It may help the Kirby team in their support, but I don’t think it will help me.

19 days ago
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That is a TERRIBLE suggestion, and I’m p*&^% off that with such few votes it’s taking priority over others.

18 days ago

The quality of comments in here from anonymous users - especially the last one - makes us think hard about removing and disabling anonymous comments and votes. It’s fine that you disagree with our decisions but this style is something that we will not tolerate at all in our community.

The reason why this is already marked as planned is because we started on working on it before we moved feedback to Nolt. This one is based on feedback we got from our survey at the beginning of the year.

You also cannot expect us to go strictly by votes for upcoming features. We still need to decide in the end what we can realistically build and what does fit into our own vision for Kirby. You are helping us to prioritize with your feedback here. But if it ends up in troll comments, we have no problems to ban such accounts.

18 days ago
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Glad to hear this is going to be optional. Users -not- being able to update things on their own - and not even knowing that an update was available - was one of the reasons I’ve been using Kirby. Please, don’t let it become like wordpress upgrade hell.

16 days ago
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TBH, I’d rather not have it, but if it’s going to be added, then I’m happy that we’ll be able to hide it, or switch it off.

14 days ago
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Have this feature ‘off’ by default, please. Don’t want any panel warnings for my clients.

14 days ago

We discussed this internally and will implement the feature in a way that security warnings will be on by default but other update notifications will be switched off. You will also be able to hide the warnings entirely.

I think this solution should make everyone happy as it doesn’t force you into one particular direction, but it will also help to promote important security updates.

BTW again: this is not an auto-update feature like in Wordpress. It will only be visible in the settings view when there are updates available.

We would also appreciate it if anonymous users could claim their accounts. We will stop showing and accepting anonymous comments and votes in the near future for the sake of quality in this platform.

13 days ago
Locked this conversation
13 days ago